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When can I be a PRO rider?

Post  kumagako on Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:20 am

I would define a PRO rider as world class on this topic in the likes of kuntador, alkanselara, ebans, etc <-nandito sila rio&stanley
for there are other levels of PRO like continental PRO & national PRO which are much lesser.

In the advent of power meters, I would measure of performance is the FTP (60min best power) in units of watts.

By right I can quickly say that a World PRO is around 420w, conti PRO around 380w and national PRO around 340w as estimates.
Then you can compare you numbers to where you belong or how far are you from them.

But this article will deal on when can an executive rider (cyclist training but working full time at the same time)
achieve his PRO level goal. I would believe everybody has dreams of becoming PRO (not prostitute ha).

On Joe Friel's training bible case studies, he once stated that 10% FTP increase in 10 months is possible but hard work.
JF is more on coaching on cyclists working at the same time (executive) so his data would correlate mostly on working cyclists.

So it would generally and conservatively be 10% per year including your off season.
Off-season is parts of the year that you refrain or lessen your cycling in order to rest and gain enthusiasm in cycling again.

To proceed on the article, I took the liberty of getting a 200w rider this 2011 and increasing the theorethical FTP of 10%/year.

YEAR - FTP(watt)
2011 - 200w <-PBB pro
2012 - 220w
2013 - 242w <-fafi pro
2014 - 266w
2015 - 292w <-look bomba pro
2016 - 321w
2017 - 353w <-national pro
2018 - 388w <-continental pro
2019 - 426w <-world PRO

In the table, it is projected that a 200w rider now can become world PRO by 2019.

Is the projection distrubing? Don't worry for the human body response is not generally like that.
Some can get 20% improvement and some as low as 1% due to improper training or largely untalented.
The increase is higher when you are younger too for the amount of the natural HGH in your body is still abundant.

In my experience for the last two years having a powermeter and watching my FTP,
I noticed a 4%-6% increase per season in my FTP which correlates to the 10%/year we conservatively stated above.
BTW, I only 2 seasons per year.

Maybe I could get a 10% per season like LookB's.

I could do some blood doping, increase training time, increase training quality and/or two magnets in my PM to cheat the meter with a higher reading. Don't laugh for I personally know a guy cheating his power meter to read a huge number on the downhill by using the magnet trick.

But time is limited for an executive racer. If you want to improve in cycling then you will have to set up priorities.
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Re: When can I be a PRO rider?

Post  Makoy on Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:24 pm

Yung pro level eh para lang yan sa mga "TALENTADO"...

Di ako kasama doon... nagkamali
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Post  kumagako on Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:37 pm

Makoy wrote:Yung pro level eh para lang yan sa mga "TALENTADO"...

Di ako kasama doon... nagkamali

kahit di ka talentado eh pwede ka parin magimprove
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Post  Makoy on Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:40 pm

Pero di kasing la-lakas ng mga "TALENTADONG" yan.... nagkamali
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Post  kumagako on Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:44 pm

Makoy wrote:Pero di kasing la-lakas ng mga "TALENTADONG" yan.... nagkamali

di rin naman sa talent yan sa training rin.

yung mga araw na tinatamad ka magride at skip training ka
eh yung mga prostitutes eh nasa kalye and doing their craft
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Post  Kiko on Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:02 pm

prosti ba kamo? or frosti?

masarap yan lalo na ung kay Wendy's... nagkamali

pero kidding aside...

sabi nga naman ni lance armstrong (from nike commercial - youtube)...

"people ask me, what am i on... what am i on? - i'm on my bike 6 hours a day busting my ass.. what are you on?!"
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Re: When can I be a PRO rider?

Post  Kiko on Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:06 pm

Makoy wrote:Pero di kasing la-lakas ng mga "TALENTADONG" yan.... nagkamali

seriously and honestly Gabby.... i have seen a lot of cyclist in my lifetime...

and i can say you are talented physically as a cyclist. hataw
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Re: When can I be a PRO rider?

Post  kumagako on Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:30 pm

and mentally bright
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Re: When can I be a PRO rider?

Post  GIANT on Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:16 am

oo nga makoy, you have what it takes. kaya mag upgrade ka na!

kaya wag ka muna mag aasawa, nobya lang muna. jump

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Post  GIANT on Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:31 am

seriously Makoy! ako living testament sa sobrang paglakas at pag improve ni ryan. so kaya mo din mag improve

nasabi naman nya sa brief history ng PBB sa isang topic eh. sina Randy , Johnny at Kiko pa nun ang nagpapahirap sa kanya
(at sken)hehehe. yung mga unang criterium nga na sinalihan nya na lap-an pa sya. but he was never discouraged.
he continue to train. now nakaka podium na sya. sayang nga yung mix TTT podium na yun nagka semplangan pa, anyway
its part of the game.

FAFI ryan takes it to a different level. he do it systematically and scientific ang approach nya.to the point nakaka nosebleed
una using cadence, using heart rate and now using power meter.in short madami pera si ryan pang upgrade(joke! nagkamali )

focus sya sa training and have the discipline.! hindi na ko magtataka sa una pagsabak ni Ryan sa Tour of Friendship madami sya
makakaaway nagkamali este madami sya tutuhugin.

Fafi galingan mo sa TOF, tsaka try mo mag breakaway! hehehe

Happy Bedey! Fafi Ryan!

ayan ah, ganda ng testi ko (parang friendster lang) party party party

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Re: When can I be a PRO rider?

Post  kumagako on Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:47 am

MAKOY HITLIST as testament of mental strength "the tactician"

1. rio <- tinalo sa Nat road champ. nagpa lapout sa last 200m then sabay finish.
2. lito <- iniwanan sa pengerang nung nalingat ng konti at tumulong sa pageskapo. iniwanan c ito sa no man's land
3. MikeO <- drinop sa gunong arong forest mersing. kaso drinop rin yung sarili niya para ma drop.
4. who's next?

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Re: When can I be a PRO rider?

Post  Kiko on Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:55 am

Muntikan na din me naisama sa Hitslist na yan...

Last time nag ITT kami muntik na me ako
ma2hog
ng fishball stick nya... palo
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Post  Makoy on Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:17 pm

kumagako wrote:MAKOY HITLIST as testament of mental strength "the tactician"

1. rio <- tinalo sa Nat road champ. nagpa lapout sa last 200m then sabay finish.
2. lito <- iniwanan sa pengerang nung nalingat ng konti at tumulong sa pageskapo. iniwanan c ito sa no man's land
3. MikeO <- drinop sa gunong arong forest mersing. kaso drinop rin yung sarili niya para ma drop.
4. who's next?


Don't look too far my friend...

My eyes is set on you.... kiss
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Post  kumagako on Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:00 pm

Makoy wrote:
kumagako wrote:MAKOY HITLIST as testament of mental strength "the tactician"

1. rio <- tinalo sa Nat road champ. nagpa lapout sa last 200m then sabay finish.
2. lito <- iniwanan sa pengerang nung nalingat ng konti at tumulong sa pageskapo. iniwanan c ito sa no man's land
3. MikeO <- drinop sa gunong arong forest mersing. kaso drinop rin yung sarili niya para ma drop.
4. who's next?


Don't look too far my friend...

My eyes is set on you.... kiss

haraykopo!!!!
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Post  kumagako on Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:39 pm

GIANT wrote:
he continue to train. now nakaka podium na sya. sayang nga yung mix TTT podium na yun nagka semplangan pa,

sir, nka podium langpo kc kakampi ko c lookbomba. iba talaga kung kakampi mo yan. kung wala c lookb eh bugak placing
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Post  skid on Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:39 pm

kumagako wrote:MAKOY HITLIST as testament of mental strength "the tactician"

1. rio <- tinalo sa Nat road champ. nagpa lapout sa last 200m then sabay finish.
2. lito <- iniwanan sa pengerang nung nalingat ng konti at tumulong sa pageskapo. iniwanan c ito sa no man's land
3. MikeO <- drinop sa gunong arong forest mersing. kaso drinop rin yung sarili niya para ma drop.
4. who's next?


correction, hindi ako tinalo ni makoy nung road championsheep. si proud yun! naka tsamba ako dun, i finished 20+ something position on that race hehehe. sayaw
pero patay lahat ng ETC proteam kay makoy next time kasi super improved siya party
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Post  kumagako on Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:40 am

3 185 MICHAEL ORENZA SIN Crest Pursuit / Podium Wear 1h15:07.08 4.80
23 142 RIO CANARE PHI 1h15:13.58 11.30
39 199 FRANCISCO GOROSPE SIN PINOYBIKERS@SG 1h15:22.04 19.76
40 175 FERDINAND ALCANTARA SIN JOYRIDERS / PINOY BIKE BROTHER 1h15:22.36 20.08
48 143 STANLEY F GARCIA PHI PINOYBIKERBOYZBROTHERS 1h15:34.80 32.52

got the results here and the gap is only a few seconds beelat
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Post  Proud2bpinoy on Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:30 pm

skid wrote:
kumagako wrote:MAKOY HITLIST as testament of mental strength "the tactician"

1. rio <- tinalo sa Nat road champ. nagpa lapout sa last 200m then sabay finish.
2. lito <- iniwanan sa pengerang nung nalingat ng konti at tumulong sa pageskapo. iniwanan c ito sa no man's land
3. MikeO <- drinop sa gunong arong forest mersing. kaso drinop rin yung sarili niya para ma drop.
4. who's next?


correction, hindi ako tinalo ni makoy nung road championsheep. si proud yun! naka tsamba ako dun, i finished 20+ something position on that race hehehe. sayaw
pero patay lahat ng ETC proteam kay makoy next time kasi super improved siya party


correction.. marami ng beses akong tinalo ni makoy pero hindi sa National Road Championship. Dito si Gabs nagsimulang
gumaling. In a way, may utang ng loob sa akin si Makoy. sayaw

Tsaka huwag na ninyong ipaalala itong National Road Championship kay Makoy. Gusto na ni makoy
kalimutan ito. lol!
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Post  Proud2bpinoy on Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:33 pm

kumagako wrote:3 185 MICHAEL ORENZA SIN Crest Pursuit / Podium Wear 1h15:07.08 4.80
23 142 RIO CANARE PHI 1h15:13.58 11.30
39 199 FRANCISCO GOROSPE SIN PINOYBIKERS@SG 1h15:22.04 19.76
40 175 FERDINAND ALCANTARA SIN JOYRIDERS / PINOY BIKE BROTHER 1h15:22.36 20.08
48 143 STANLEY F GARCIA PHI PINOYBIKERBOYZBROTHERS 1h15:34.80 32.52

got the results here and the gap is only a few seconds beelat


May mali ata dito sa listahan. Singaporean si Michael, Francis at Ferdinand. hehehe.

Kidding aside, meron ngang mali dito pero oks na rin. Naging maganda ang timing ko. hug
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Post  Kiko on Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:28 pm

hahahaha buti na lang di me sumali nuon... malamang nakasama me dyan sa VICTIMS LIST sabog
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Post  Proud2bpinoy on Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:59 pm

Ika nga ni Gabs, kahit saan ka man, ikaw na ang susunod... sayaw
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Post  mike-o on Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:25 pm

kung alam nyo lang ang nasa kwarto ni gabs....
may mga picture tayo dun, e ung mga nabiktima nya
e may ekis na. ngayon na pinost na nya, alam na natin
kung sino ang kasunod. ang tanong ngayon e...
kelan? sabog
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Post  kumagako on Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:11 pm

yup, salamat at panay teped ko ng chakra para kung tumira c terminator... i am ready!
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Post  Proud2bpinoy on Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:41 pm

mike-o wrote:kung alam nyo lang ang nasa kwarto ni gabs....
may mga picture tayo dun, e ung mga nabiktima nya
e may ekis na. ngayon na pinost na nya, alam na natin
kung sino ang kasunod. ang tanong ngayon e...
kelan? sabog

hmmm...ano naman ang ginagawa mo sa kwarto ni Gabs? Magseselos
niyan si fafi ryan? lol!
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Post  Proud2bpinoy on Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:09 pm

kumagako wrote:yup, salamat at panay teped ko ng chakra para kung tumira c terminator... i am ready!

hehehe...

May natutunan na naman akong bago. "CHAKRA" sayaw
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